First of 2 Experiments this week!

28 Sep

I feel like I am pretty realistic with my goals. I have been wavering what pace group I should join in Chicago. I would love to do a 4:30. I would be happy with a 4:40. After my last 23 miler, I decided that a 4:35 would be in my range. I thought I would start with the 4:40 group and at the half mark I would try to make up the 5 minutes.

I got a tip from a past competitor: You should get with your pace group and stay there. The race is too crowded to just “speed” up. Now I have this dilemma of starting with the 4:40 and having too much juice at the end. OR I could start with the 4:30 and risk the burn up at the end. OR Just starting in the middle of the 2 groups and trying to stay on pace for a 4:35.

I read Kristen’s post the other day and she mentioned the Yasso 800s. She asked if anyone used them to predict their marathon time? I thought well I do 800s and of course I have heard of Bart Yasso but a marathon prediction?

I did some research and found a couple good articles:
McMillian Running–>had 3 great marathon predictors. (which include the 800s)
Bart Yasso–>talked about the Yasso 800s.
I also found a race predictor calculator.

With that information I decided to conduct an experiment. Dan and I hit the track for 10x800s. I was NERVOUS! The last time I did 800s they were not as fast as I would have liked. I thought oh man what if these are slow!??

My only real goal was to do 10 at 4:25 pace because all the research I did the prediction was always +5 minutes. I knew if I would do them all in 4:25 +5 minutes —> 4:30 would probably be pretty realistic! Right where I would LOVE to finish Chicago!

The experiment commenced at 5:45 Thursday night. Dan and I ran to the track for a 1 mile warm up. I did some dynamic stretching while he did some strides. I wanted to start out conservatively but I hit a 4:16. Good but too fast.

I hit a 4:11, 4:10, 4:10, 4:09 to round out the first 5. WTF???? I could not believe it. I thought well I will just keep going hard until I can’t anymore. My second half was even better: 4:08, 4:08, 4:08, 4:11, and 4:08. My average was 4:09:9. WHAT????????

Now lets be realistic here. There is no way I will be able to run a 4:15 marathon(4:10 + 5minutes). I will be shocked but by this information I have decided to go with the 4:30 pace group.

Two more tiny pieces of information here: 1) I wanted chocolate/peanut butter malt balls a snack at about 2 but one of my co-workers wanted a coffee. I went with a black and white mocha. The caffeine. It is a saint!! 2) My normal track day is on Tuesday after I have done a spin class Monday night. My rest day is Wednesday. So I had 2 things going for me!! πŸ™‚

My other predictors:
Based on my 10K: 4:30:06
Based on my half marathon: 4:23:30

This is why the marathon is so MENTAL!! My body can run a (maybe) 4:15 but my mind says hell no!


Here is to the 14 day countdown. I got my participant handbook in the mail. I read it from cover to cover and if you could not already tell: I.AM.SO.EXCITED!!!

My second experiment is happening on tomorrow..Stay tuned!

Who has done the Chicago Marathon? What was your perspective in the way of pace groups or running a negative split?

8 Responses to “First of 2 Experiments this week!”

  1. Kristen L September 29, 2013 at 9:53 AM #

    DUDE — you crushed those 800s!! I think starting with the 4:30 pace group sounds like a good plan. Believe in yourself that you can do it! You have rocked your training including a 23 mile long run, and will have the taper on your side. I’m so excited for you!!

    • Leslie @ TriathleteTreats September 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM #

      Thanks!! I am really excited after having such a good track work out. I am going to be positive and believe in myself!!

  2. Change of Pace September 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM #

    Congrats- you killed the Yassos!
    I agree- believe in yourself!
    I’ve never ran a race with a pacer but I have been around some and I’ve observed them quite a bit ahead or quite a bit behind and then racing to catch up with their time goal. (I guess it depends on the pacer!)
    You are so in tune with your body and pacing…why don’t you run with how you feel and take it from there?

    • Leslie @ TriathleteTreats September 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM #

      That work-out totally got me pumped up! I am so excited! I am going to go out and be positive and definitely believe in myself. This is the first marathon cycle that I have felt this good.

  3. Lauren September 30, 2013 at 1:34 PM #

    EEK!! So excited you are running Chicago. And it is VERY crowded so definitely line up with the faster end of what you want to run. It is easy to slow down but it is hard to speed up among slower people. Do they have runner tracking??!! I need to know how you are doing during the race!

    • Leslie @ TriathleteTreats September 30, 2013 at 9:25 PM #

      Sounds good!! I am not sure if they have a runner tracking or not!! 😦 I will find out!!!

  4. birdlegs October 2, 2013 at 1:01 PM #

    For sure 4:30 pace group for Chicago! No question. Then 4:15 or bust for AZ:)

    • Leslie @ TriathleteTreats October 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM #

      Yes!! Thanks for the confidence!! Does that mean you are coming to Phoenix with me?? πŸ™‚

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